South Africa v West Indies-2nd Test

[Dammo Qwirky]

there is a new ball first thing. long tail with no pollock. spread is 340-344 on Spreadfair. i always look at midpoint as an evens shot. thats a bit beneath evens. u can get a bit over evens on Betfair for over 350, or 1.6 odd for 325, slightly bad value there too.
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[thetitan]

surprised to see such high quotes to be honest, basically backing prince and boucher not to get out to the new ball. I reckon the last three wickets wont put on more than 20-30 max so i would go unders if anything...boucher and prince didnt look comfortable for a lot of the evening session.
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[fairfranco]

at what point does the new ball come in?

I'm not sure how this games going to go yet, a lot relying on this pair at the moment but West Indies aren't pressuring much right now.

SA are still batting at a low run rate but as they're now in the lead it doesn't matter too much at this point. If they lead by 100 runs going into the next innings West Indies would have a lot of work to do needing well over 300 to have anychance of winning.

EDIT: well it was taking ages to submit this message and in that time the all important wicket went down!

The Boucher's gone, and just how the commentators told us they expected based on way he plays. he tries the pull shot and drags it on to his stumps.

harris in now, should be interesting to see how SA hold up now their big partnership is over

[fairfranco]

wish i'd got on Windies before that wicket now! instead i layed SA which really wasn't the right move as the only price that went out with the wickets was the draw.

Windies came in from 15's down to 8's and now with the 7th wicket falling straight after it might not be long till it's over. They really need to try and get Prince out that'd clear things up very quickly.

[thetitan]

interestingly, the draw has come in today, purely because of dujon and mbangwa's nonsensical discussion about rain in the air. I'm big red on SA and medium green on both other results (still struggling to understand how I'm in this position!).

Key thing here is that both sides are missing a bowler - Edwards and Steyn.

I think Steyn will be a huge loss, IMO with Brett Lee, he's the best pacer in world cricket right now and SA will feel his loss far more than WI will feel Edwards. But at the same time, I think that if you lose any of your frontline bowlers, you'd need something in the region of 300+ for the opposition to chase down.

What do you reckon?
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[thetitan]

SA have a lead of 78, I still think we could see some very nice trades with a partnership or two. The partnership between Boucher and Prince was the key period in the game so far, but I think it can be wiped out by the West Indies.
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[fairfranco]

West Indies are having an expensive time of the last couple of wickets, especially now, 9 wickets down, only 2 bowlers left (one isn't even running for himself!) and they're giving away a lot of runs.

I don't know how tough the chances have been as i'm only seeing the action on cricinfo but i've seen 3 dropped catches come up now which has definately proven costly for them.

RIGHT HE'S OUT!

ok 321 the score, 78 the lead for South Africa with just under 2 1/2 days to go.

Draw is unlikely unless weather takes time off the game which sounds like a possibility on Sunday however it really depends how much time it knocks off as to weather it matters.

West Indies will need to bat very well now, they will need at least 350 to have any chance which would leave them a 272 lead.

time isn't an issue but it is important for West Indies to stay in for as long as possible whatever the run rate as it wil allow them more chance of the draw, a bigger score and a more worn pitch for South African's chase.

As usual expect Chanderpaul to last throughout though for the life of me i can't see why he's at number 5, he always runs out of partners and with run rate not being an issue he's an ideal player to have from the start.

I think this afternoon's play will be the deciding factor in this game, if West Indies don't lose more than 2 wickets then their odds as well as the draw will start coming if they don't do well obvioulsy it's all there for SA.

[fairfranco]

Importantly West Indies appear to be without Gayle for the second innings, at least for now anyway.

Ganga starts with Ramdin instead.

An important loss if he doesn't play at all as he often scores a lot of quick runs, 46 from 49 runs in the first innings.

[thetitan]

a few strange things going on with injuries here!

edwards and steyn out, steyn batted with a runner, but still on the pitch right now?

no way you can bowl with a hamstring twinge, no matter how small.

gayle is slated to come in at 4, also seems to have a hamstring tweak but nothing serious. Poor decision IMO, would mean Chanderpaul coming in at 6, which would be a massive waste if he's left not out again.

Ramdin leaving the ball nicely here, neither batsman certain of anything here, Nel and Ntini bowling very well but as of yet, not found an edge or had a close LBW. Would be a bonus if these guys managed to see through the new ball.
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[fairfranco]

yeah the injuries are certainly mounting.

Steyn's had 3 overs but given away 14 runs and based purely on cricinfo's commentary he's not running up like he was but he doesn't seem to be particularly struggling.

sounds like SA are bowling well but Windies have done what they had to from the first session which was to not lose any wickets, as i've said, number of runs makes no difference with the time they've got and i'm sure at some point they'll step up a notch weather with these two or later on in the order.

the draw price really starting to come in now, 5.6 for the draw, 6.2 the Windies and SA now out to 1.5.

I could trade out now but it's a tough decission, i'm in the same position as Titan though my profits for WI or draw are about 3 times my risk on SA.

In fact i'm pretty tempted to as a full trade out on SA now would leave me with £20-£40 whatever the result.

I think i'm going to part trade out as a wicket or two after tea could prove very costly otherwise.

[fairfranco]

blimey! 1 over in after tea and the draw price fell from 5.4 to 4.4 and it's tumbling fast!

maybe i traded 5 minutes too early!

certainly no rain on the horizon, for immidiate weather views check this webcam http://www.capetown-webcam.com/

the pitch is the other side of those mountains.

[thetitan]

wow, in a few minutes the draw has come into sub 5.

steyn was surprisingly effective when he did come on, but he's clearly crocked and is quite ginger. not making a move now but hoping SA reach evens at some point tonight!

very big bonus for these two have survived nearly 20 overs.
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