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louislestat
Handicapper


Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: systems

hi all,
ok sweet system i use to take the fun out of horse racing and to inject some cold hard cash...

back the 1st 2nd 3rd named favs in the racing post f/c in all non hcaps
and back the 3rd 4th 5th named favs in the racing post f/c in all hcaps
the staking has to be adjusted according to the odds on offer and targets needed, this i use to make money on a daily basis when all else fails, it does take the fun outof watching form and gambles but they can always be added on...
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pidger
Group 1 Class


Joined: 12 May 2005
Posts: 488

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject:

Interesting idea mate, maybe you would be willing to post up some selections and proof your idea.

Regards
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louislestat
Handicapper


Joined: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject:

hi, yes when i have time il put a days betting and results on but no need really as i would follow this exact system on each and every race only uk racing mind you.
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comeonyouirons
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Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject:

Hi Louislestat,

That looks an extremely intriguing idea.

One question if I may, and forgive my ignorance, but could you explain a little more on how the staking would be adjusted?

Thanks.
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louislestat
Handicapper


Joined: 23 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject:

yes this is how i do it, assuming there is no conflicting bet from my secret/not so secret system also on the forum.

i recommend backing level all the 3 horses hcaps and non hcaps and then getting out for the day as soon as you see a profit. you see many times in non hcaps odds on horses get beat thus giving you a good price, you will be able to ride through the losses even if they win still get some of your stake back, all the hard work is done for you in selections and statistics.

the 3rd 4th and 5th horses in hcaps are usually the best hcapped and because the bookies half the time open and push the real fancied ones to a higher price then you will clean up too many times, this being a real weekness in the bookies psycology for this perticular system.

sometimes this system works best with rp f/c and others with say the sun f/c because the boys who f/c for the sun do a more in depth look at form.

when your like me a walking neo after watching the markets for ten years you get an instinct when to stake higher on certain horses.



say for instance theres a strong paper fav at evens and the rest of the field is say 3 to 1 plus then il go for the fav and have the other 2 as savers or not use it at all if a horse shows from the secret system..

another example say theres 2 opening jfavs, then il back the one that drifts every time as these come in more, same as a paper strong fav and 2nd fav il back the strong 2nd fav because i understant the bookies way of thinking, get that and youve got them.

hope this helps.



let everyone be rich in knowlage and he shall fish for himself
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comeonyouirons
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Joined: 16 Mar 2008
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for that Louislestat, very much appreciated.

I look forward to further input from your good self on your secret/not so secret method too.

I hope I can offer some quality advice in return soon.
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DANCING BRAVE
Listed Class


Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Posts: 49

PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject:

Is there no good laying threads on here?
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fairfranco
At Stud


Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 4541

PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject:

there's plenty of outstanding Lay tipsters if you look at the tipster competition. lots of people making consistant profits virtually every month.

they don't have threads but their tips are there for all to see.
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qhstatistics
Group 2 Class


Joined: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject:

so what do you then you chase your losses, does it not mean that with a losing bet your stake can get very high very quickly.
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LEEVAN
2yo


Joined: 12 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject:

It needs a bit of work. Backing 1st 2nd 3rd fav in non Handicaps is a HUGE long term loser. There have been periods of winning but overall long term you lose big.
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rogue1
Group 3 Class


Joined: 27 May 2008
Posts: 68

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:24 am    Post subject:

I like to Lay alot as I've found more profit that way. There's certain aspects I look for in laying a horse. For this you'll need RacingPost website.

Horse must not be top weight.

Minimum of 9 runners.

There must be 2 or more runners with the same or more ticks for ability in
post data.

Must be 2 runners within 10 RPR of selected horse to Lay.

I'll Lay no horse greater than 9.0 odds.

Trainer and jockey stats for that course must be no higher than 15%.

Spotlight verdict must not have the horse in CAPITALS.

Horse to Lay doesn't have to be favourite in the race. As long as the odds are no greater than 9.0.
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qhstatistics
Group 2 Class


Joined: 13 Jul 2007
Posts: 178

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject:

sounds a bit dodgy that to me laying at those odds?
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