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gingerzola
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject:

Can anyone give any indication of where I can find out info on a particular horses racing style, as I hate watching a horse I've backed tearing away only to run outr of steam at the death!

Also, when reading through this part of the forum, I saw that LLAAYYSS has a spreadsheet that details course types, etc. If anyone could forward this to me I would be very grateful.

I did try to PM, but as i'm a new member I'm a social leper til my checks have cleared!

fommytarr@hotmail.com if anyone would be so kind Fingers Crossed

Feel free to drop any other useful info that may be of use.

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DANCING BRAVE
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject:

There are plenty of places to fing a horses running style , but usually you have to pay for them, not many do it for free i dont think. good luck son.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject:

You certainly dont have to pay to find a horses running style, its all there in the form if you take the time to read through it.

The racing post has results of every race a horse has participated ion, and if you look at the comments in running you can judge for yourself the style in which they run.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject:

Cheers dancing and manobong

Always good to add to the knowledge bank anytime I can!

You couldn't shed any light on the jockeys claiming weight can you anyone, as this still confuses me a little (along with handicapping in general, though i'm slowly getting there!)

Thanks for any help
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:16 pm    Post subject:

hi guys can anyone tell me where i can find how many lenghts the 2nd placed horse came behind the winner.tried R post but maybe looking in the wrong place.What a great thread.thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject:

Hi wiseman

Yes the RP is probably the easiest way. take the 3:40 at Bath today Merry Madcap was 2nd last time out. Click on the horse in the race card and it brings up all the previous runs of the horse as follows:-

VIDEO DATE RACE CONDITIONS WGT RACE OUTCOME JOCKEY OR TS RPR


— — 22Mar08 Wol 9St Cl5 Hc,2K 9-3 2/9 3½L, Royal Amnesty[7/1] 8-7 Francis Norton 73 67 77
— — 20Sep07 Wol 9St Cl5 Hc,3K 9-8 4/11 2½L, Red Birr[7/2F] 9-8 Francis Norton 72 69 74
— — 06Sep07 Wol 9St/Fs Cl5 Hc,2K 9-3 1/10 shd, New World Order[7/1] 9-1 Francis Norton 69 65 76
FULL FIN 27Aug07 Kem 8St Cl4 Hc,5K 9-1 10/13 7½L, Amarna[11/1] 9-6 Francis Norton 67 41 60
— — 20Aug07 Wol 9St Cl4 Hc,6K 8-13 4/12 1½L, Just Bond[16/1] 9-5 Francis Norton 69 63 75
— — 12Aug07 Wol 9St Cl5 Hc,3K 9-13 7/13 3½L, Mountain Cat[9/1] 9-5 Dane O'Neill 69 52 70
FULL FIN 25Jul07 San 8Gd Cl4 Hc,6K 9-1 6/7 5L, Blue Monkey[14/1] 8-13 T Quinn 65 53 62
— — 13Jul07 Chp 8Sft Cl5 Hc,3K 9-13 10/16 14L, Indian Edge[8/1] 9-9 Francis Norton 68 45 47
† BHB Rating is the latest published.

The distance it was behind the winner is highlighted and underlined in red

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject:

thanks for the help,i must say this forum is always very helpful to beginers like me.am learning so much from you guys.thanks again
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject:

hi is there anyway to find out how a race was run,as i have heard it said that if so and so doesnt get a fast pace it will struggle to win.is it all in the comments in running ie do you have to read all the horses comments in the said race to try to understand how it was run.or is there an explanation on any sites.hope my question is clear.thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject:

Does anybody know how a standard time for a distance is produced?

thanks for any help
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: form ???

In this day and age does any-body agree that a horses actual weight should be displayed in form guide ? I mean it would'nt take much to put in form guide horses optimum weight/ actual weight then us punters would have more of an idea if horse is fit , or in need of a run . Every little helps and i feel this could . Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject:

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hi is there anyway to find out how a race was run


the best way is to watch the race if you can and take your own notes. If not possible, the results section on the racingpost website has a comprehensive write-up of each race and you can also select comments in running which gives individual analysis of how each horse ran in the race. The time of the race and how it compares to standard will give you an overall idea of whether it was fast or slowly run, but beware that ground conditions can affect the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject:

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hi ive posted on another thread already but admin has said post it here, what i would like to know is about horse form can anyone tell me on the racing post website its got a column about top speed. Does this matter or is the RPR more important.Or any other advice which i should take not of


these are not official ratings but devised and created by the journos that work at the racingpost - they work in much the same way as people on here who may have their own systems for selecting horses. they are just different ways of assessing a horses ability and should be used with all your own knowledge to help you select the nag that you are sure is going to win but sods law ends up finishing 10th!!!
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