HORSE RACING - WEDNESDAY CHAT

richardmcfc · Group 1 Class Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 397

Anyone think that Shipmaster is overpriced for the Chester Cup at 17/1? Already a class one winner this year and the ground should suit providing that it doesnt dry up too much.

martinallen72 · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:

think he's got far too much weight richard and the ground looks like its drying all the time which doesnt seem to suit (6th, 7th and 9th on ground described good, or faster).

I think he'll be run off his feet today. there are some temptingly well-handicapped horses running today who will be better suited by the fast track and good ground.

Good luck nonetheless!
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richardmcfc · Group 1 Class Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 397

I think thats the key - the ground. If it keeps drying out then I very much doubt I can back him but we shall see. Quite liking Tilt at the moment aswell.

Tax Free · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:57 am Post subject:

I don' think the weight will be too much of an issue but the ground has gone against him. Also for a prominent runner he will probably have to race wide given his wide draw.
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mike mercury · Triple Crown Winner Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 1413

Weather at Chester breezy and quite warm can only dry the ground out more
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martinallen72 · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

enfield - sometimes it can be even more important becasue if you start wide, you can often get stuck out wide. if you dont have the pace to hold/gain a handy position before too long you cant tack into the pack. If you restrain heavily early, you get caught behind a massive turning wall of horses and you need a miracle to weave through.
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mike mercury · Triple Crown Winner Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 1413

Draw can definately help provided your horse gets out and gets his position early but theres always someone after your spec and you dont want to be 3 wide all the way round Fair Along gets the e/w vote from me think this years pilot will do better
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Tax Free · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject:

Enfield have you seen Chester before. Unlike any other course in the country its unbelievably tight, its like racing on a sixpence. You can win this race from a wide draw but the jockey needs to given an inspired ride and better drawn horses have a clear advantage.
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mike mercury · Triple Crown Winner Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 1413

Its straight from 7 1/2 f to 6f out and theres another chance from 3f out to 2f out then the straight theres a chance going for the inside as horses tend to fan out coming into the straight but the door can close but the course apart from that is always turning throwing the horses wide in some cases
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aidanldrebin · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject:

Hi all, looking forward to todays action.

Really think Shes A Shaw Thing is a good filly, but will she be able to act on the quicker surface? At 8/11, I am not willing to take the risk that's for sure!!!

Think Sail has got a lot of improvement in her and the same can be said of Patkai who, despite his poor draw, can win today.

I always find the Chester Cup hard to fathom out but, think Black Rock can overcome stall 15 with Mr Tactics himself, Philip Robinson, aboard.

Should be a enjoyable a hopefully profitable day! Win

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richardmcfc · Group 1 Class Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 397

Aspen Darling has been backed right down into 13's from 21's

richardmcfc · Group 1 Class Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 397

Extradionary move from Doncaster Rover in the market. Started at 3.50 then went all the way to 6's before coming into 4.33 - no-one knew what to do with it. Makes a good start for me though - even if I did get it at its lowest price.

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